Julianne Romanello has been very in tune with shifts occurring in the education system. These have been toward job training, through public/ private partnerships, and away from classically liberal "true" education. Her background is in political philosophy and teaching. This first section of the interview covers how she discovered the technocratic agenda and philosophical issues behind these moves. We discuss Plato, the spiritual components, divinizing the earth, man and society, and much more. This was a great interview and perfect in the context of the content we've been covering on this show.